Is there a theme or trope you enjoyed as a young adult but as you got older you feel weird about? For me it was teen with middle aged adult. In my 20's I enjoyed it immensely. Now 40 I find it creepy.
Is there a theme or trope you enjoyed as a young adult but as you got older you feel weird about? For me it was teen with middle aged adult. In my 20's I enjoyed it immensely. Now 40 I find it creepy.
for me it's "much sex" and "stroke" more than anything else. In my 60's now and find the sex scenes in stories mostly boring nowadays lol
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Again, I disagree, as no matter how old, everyone loves a little romance—especially in their fiction—and with any good romance, there will be some sex in it, as the two are intricately connected.
But you're right, "much sex", "stroke" and any variety of 'kinks' just don't play for me as well as when I was merely late-middle aged. A decent plot and decent character develop are essential, but endlessly repeating sex scenes are often the only thing keeping most marginal stories afloat.
And yes, those categories are many authors bread and butter, yet for me, they're now mostly turn offs. I have no problem with a decent gay romance, even with sex, but two random guys getting it on with no emotional attachment leaves me bored beyond measure. While Scat stories I wouldn't even glance at even if they were rated solid tens, which they never are.
Again, I disagree, as no matter how old, everyone loves a little romance—especially in their fiction—and with any good romance, there will be some sex in it, as the two are intricately connected.
Jane Austen begs to differ. Beyond a kiss here and there, as well as some unsanctioned implied intimacy (e.g., Lydia Bennett and Mr. Wickham in Pride and Prejudice) off screen, there is nothing in her novels that we would call even "some sex."
Consider the times, as her work was about getting the freedom to publish, and you can't get far if you piss off the publishers, the readers and the legal authorities.
It's a matter of setting priorities, as it's best to win the battles you can than launching battles you have no hope of winning.
Still, why do you think there are SO MANY modern retellings of her works which was drenched in not only sex, but also rampant incest? And several of those have publicly stated that it was their intent, showcasing what they believe Jane would of published if she could have gotten away with it. (Of course, getting the maximum ratings they can has absolutely nothing to do with the discussion.) ;)
oh right. Great idea, this is what she would've written. Sounds like a form of confirmation bias to me. Can you give an example of a modern retelling drenched in sex and rampant incest of one of Jane Austen's novels? Which movie and which novel? (I like movies drenched in sex and with rampant incest.)
I agree, but I'm only conveying what the 'creators' of those thriving shows are openly stating. So you have to take it in stride, as Jane was constrained by her times and the modern public is fascinated with a bit of titilation. So think of it as a compromise between the constrained days of old and the fictional fascinations of modern writers seeking a big payday with a major picture or streaming service. A blending on old and new as it were.
I didn't invent this crap, I just observe what's going on and which trends seem to be the most prevalent at any given time. After all, how can we, or anyone, truly know what's someone's truly thinking when they don't admit it?
But I can think of at least six different versions of Sanderton, her one excursion to the English countryside. Since there isn't much freedom to work with something like "Pride and Prejudice", although there are also plenty of new versions of that too (much less sex and sensuality though).
Again, nearly every time I post here, I wonder why I'm stupid enough to receive a fair reception. I'm good at spotting trends that others commonly overlook, but I don't have scientific studies documenting those trends.
Plus, I'd NEVER write ANYTHING even remotely Austin related. So once more, go screw yourself. Geez!
Plus, I'd NEVER write ANYTHING even remotely Austin related. So once more, go screw yourself. Geez!
Let's play nice, CW. Disagreement is not unfair treatment, unless you tell someone to, well, you know.
1. It's not Austen (that's Austen with an "e" not an "i") just because a modern filmmaker says let's put a little sex or whatever into it.
2. "Sandition" (not Sanderton) is based on an Austen unfinished fragment, and the series has long passed whatever point she stopped at. So it's not Austen by any stretch of the imagination, any more than "Game of Thrones" on TV was genuine George R.R. Martin, ETA once the story on TV had passed beyond the end of Martin's writing.
3. I didn't ask you for documented studies. I asked you for an example of a movie based on an Austen novel that was drenched in sex and rampant incest. Your words.
4. I forgot to add that in the 1995 BBC production of "pride and prejudice" Mr. Darcy (Colin Firth) emerges from a quick dip in the pond in a wet shirt. Set the hearts of many women, including my wife, to go pitter patter. Not quite a wet T-shirt, but along those lines.
Again, that response is conditioned by the largely negative reactions my comments generally raise here on the SOL forum or ANY forum. I get the same harsh negativity on Quora, yet at well over 1M+ views (closing on 2?), it's clear which readers prefer. Yet here, it just seems much more personal.
There are always haters, yet often there are those who simply, well, despise me for simply being Autistic. Again, it's obvious as soon as I see their scowls. So yeah, I tend to take such personal reactions QUITE seriously. As this isn't normally a simple disagreement, it's those, like Trump, who openly state that those with Autism simply don't deserve to live.
It's hard to ignore such sentiments, and while not every falls into those extremist categories, when you can observe those hateful scowls, it's often hard to tell the one from the other.
Again, after 50+ years of the same shit, over and over, it's hard to not take it personally. Here on this Forum, it seems entirely one-sided, while writing, it's a simple matter or preferences (many simply dislike complex sentences and overly complex stories), so there's nothing personal about it.
But as far a Colin Firth's Mr. Darcy, that scene definitely counts as a wet T-shit, though it was actually long-underwear instead of a modern Tee.
But as far a Colin Firth's Mr. Darcy, that scene definitely counts as a wet T-shit, though it was actually long-underwear instead of a modern Tee.
The shirt itself was a shirt, not underwear.
For me it's Asimov's Foundation trilogy.
When I read it first (1966) in a German translation I was fascinated an reread it some years later.
When it became in the mid-eighties easier in small town Germany to get editions in English I finally bought an English edition in the early nineties.
Guess what, I had problems to finish the three books. First I blamed my meager knowledge of English and started reading my old German translations instead, but had the same problem, the books no longer fascinated my over 25 years older self. I finally finished reading the trilogy in English, but haven't reread it since.
HM.
Glad I'm not the only one who had that feeling. Asimov, typical of a lot of hard sf writers, has interesting ideas, but cardboard characters. Maybe he should have stuck with robots.
As always, just as with famous films, sometimes what was once popular simply doesn't age well, while those that hardly got any attention when first released, or scant popularity, often prove the most cherished over time. As a stories immortality is never apparent till it's lasted a while, whole sheer popularity rarely survives for long as trends and a story's full impact tend to change over time.
No surprise.
ScFi is fiction. Which relies heavily on imagination.
Kids have more than adults, generally speaking.
Slight Necro, but today I came across a story here I was enjoying years ago and lost track of during a computer failure. While re reading it and initially excited to finally finish it, it soon turned to disgust that I ever enjoyed it. Quite a change in taste.