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Crossover between the NiS and Swarm universes?

Jumpingfrog ๐Ÿšซ

Has it ever happened? I think the two might be naturals for a crossover or collaboration story.

Just a thought...if it has happened I'd love to read it.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Jumpingfrog

I think the two might be naturals for a crossover or collaboration story

I don't see the point. Concs have to go naked anyway.

AJ

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@awnlee jawking

I don't see the point. Concs have to go naked anyway.

There are 1 or 2 stories that describe schools on earth with specific sponsor/concubine training programs.

You could do something with that, requiring, at a school on earth, concubine track students to be naked at school.

Replies:   REP
REP ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

In those training schools, all concubines are naked. In NiS stories' only a few students in the school are naked. I don't see how that would be considered a crossover story.

REP ๐Ÿšซ
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@Jumpingfrog

The definitions of the two universes conflict. The conflict would make a crossover or collaboration story unlikely.

The NiS Universe is based on forcing a few students to be naked in environments where other people are dressed. The plots of the stories are centered on the outcomes of violating society's public nudity beliefs.

The Swarm Universe's nudity scenes, while on Earth, are about women wearing as few clothes as possible or going nude in order to attract a sponsor; to include, stripping and sexual activities during a pick-up. Once people leave Earth, sponsors can wear clothes or go nude, concubines' manner of dress is dictated by their sponsor, and children under the age of 14 are dependents and required to wear clothes in public. When children reach 14 years old, they become a sponsor or a concubine.

In the Swarm Universe, once the sponsors, concubines, and dependents leave Earth, the rules are enforced by the Confederacy's AIs. Therefore, the NiS Universe's forced nudity of dependents would not be allowed. The only possibility of an NiS scenario occurring would be the period prior to an extraction. In the Swarm Universe's stories, the public's opinion is changing to permit nudity in public. Therefore, the only time frame where a crossover story might work is when Earth`s people are just learning about the Confederacy.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@REP

The definitions of the two universes conflict. The conflict would make a crossover or collaboration story unlikely.

I agree, a crossover/collab wouldn't work.

However, postulating a high school on earth with specific sponsor/concubine prep programs, something of a mashup could be done.

Replies:   REP
REP ๐Ÿšซ
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@Dominions Son

Perhaps that might work.

However, I have a problem with the NiS story intent of making the nude student's more confident in their ability to function in their society compared to the intent of the Swarm prep schools, which is training them to function in the Confederacy's society.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ

@REP

However, I have a problem with the NiS story intent of making the nude student's more confident in their ability to function is their society compared to the intent of the Swarm prep schools, which is training them to function in the Confederacy's society.

Don't forget that within the Swarm universe, Earth societies are shifting from what they were towards something closer to but not quite the Confederacy's society. So it would be a bit of both if done right.

Replies:   REP
REP ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

The only shifts I recall in Earth's society were related to the preparation to fight the Swarm, Earth First's opposition to the Confederacy, and peoples attempts to get extracted by a sponsor.

I just don't see the NiS reason for public nudity in schools fitting into the Swarm reasons for public nudity. A cross over story may be doable, but I can't visualize one.

Replies:   Dominions Son
Dominions Son ๐Ÿšซ
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@REP

I just don't see the NiS reason for public nudity in schools fitting into the Swarm reasons for public nudity. A cross over story may be doable, but I can't visualize one.

I'm suggesting a mashup, not a cross over. A mashup is a different thing. You take bits of of each of the sources and put them together, you don't need to maintain the totality of each individual source..

For a Swarm/NIS mashup it would not be necessary to maintain the in universe reason for the NIS program.

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REP ๐Ÿšซ
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@Dominions Son

I didn't understand what you meant by mashup.

When I visualize the media in a Swarm Universe story publicizing a person being forced to be nude in the media, if the person is under 14 it would be considered an illegal act. If they are over 14, the public would likely contribute the article to the person trying to attract a sponsor.

Either way, I would not consider the story to be related to the NiS Universe.

awnlee jawking ๐Ÿšซ

@Dominions Son

You take bits of of each of the sources and put them together, you don't need to maintain the totality of each individual source..

Naked in Confederacy Marine Training?

AJ

Replies:   REP
REP ๐Ÿšซ
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@awnlee jawking

In the Swarm Universe, Marine Training recruits are all sponsors; thus, they are all adults. That does not fit the NiS Universe's concept of minors being forced to be nude.

Diamond Porter ๐Ÿšซ

@Jumpingfrog

To answer the original question: I am fairly confident it has never yet been done.

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